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Re: [Ipsec] Negotiating IKE_SAs



What Paul said.

In practice, if and only if the peer has a fixed IP address, you can choose the proposal based on that. However, you should not base security on this, and should have a plan to do something if the authentication in the IKE_AUTH exchange shows that you've chosen wrong.

On Nov 7, 2006, at 2:57 AM, David Wierbowski wrote:

In the IKE_SA_INIT exchange the initiator sends an SA payload listing acceptable proposals. The responder picks one and sends the chosen proposal to the initiator. The identities of the IKE endpoints are not exchanged until the IKE_AUTH exchange. If the identities are not exchanged until the IKE_AUTH exchange, how does the responder know which of the initiator's proposals are acceptable during the IKE_SA_INIT exchange?

RFC 4301 discusses the use of the SPD to find acceptable policy for the creation of CHILD_SAs and it discusses the use of the PAD to authenticate IKE endpoints. It does not appear to define a construct to identify what policy is acceptable for the creation of a of an IKE_SA with a specific IKE peer. Does this mean that RFCs 4301 and 4306 do support the definition of peer specific policy for IKE_SAs?

RFC 4306 states, "All implementations of IKEv2 MUST include a management facility that enables a user or system administrator to specify the suites that are acceptable for use with IKE." This seems to imply that peer specific IKE_SA policy should not be defined and that the responder should pick the most secure proposal that the responder supports. Is that correct?

Dave Wierbowski
z/OS Comm Server Developer

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