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Re: charter question re IKE changes



  The lack of people implementing good products should not be a
motivating factor in developing standards. If we all agree on
how it *could* work then let's promote that.

  I think the market will follow a good solution. I used to love
teco until someone showed me vi and that love affair lasted
until someone showed me emacs.

  Dan.

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:35:20 PDT you wrote
> At 12:51 PM -0400 10/12/00, Stephen Kent wrote:
> >Given this perspective, remind me again why knowledgeable folks 
> >prefer passwords, IF we provide them with good software for the 
> >initial certificate issuance process, working from an existing 
> >password database :-)
> 
> Because we don't. I agree with your perspectives about how it *could* 
> work, but that's not what is being delivered. Today's users make 
> choices based on what is available to them today.
> 
> I also think the market disagrees with you about smart cards. Smart 
> cards are only useful where there are smart card readers. They become 
> an obstacle where there are no readers.
> 
> Again, I fully support the use of certs and wish that more users 
> agreed with me. But they don't, and designing a protocol around a 
> wish that has had plenty of time to come true but hasn't is a good 
> way to design yet another protocol that won't get implemented.
> 
> --Paul Hoffman, Director
> --VPN Consortium