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IETF SLC KINK WG meeting notes

Here is a draft of the KINK WG meeting notes. Please send comments by
Friday, January 11th.


IETF KINK WG Meeting: 9-11AM Monday, December 10th, 2001.
Chairs: Derek Atkins and Jonathan Trostle

The agenda was presented. The topics to be discussed were the KINK
protocol and extensibility.

KINK protocol

Mike Thomas released the .02 version of the KINK protocol specification.
The main changes are:

(a) dead peer detection is facilitated with the epoch field which has
been added to the protocol messages. By detecting a change in the peer's
epoch value, a KINK protocol entity knows that the peer has gone down
and come back up. Thus new SA's can be created, if necessary.

(b) The ack is now required in the SA create exchange if the initiator's
optimistic proposal is not accepted.

(c) KRB_ERROR messages MUST be keyed if the two peers share a secret
key. This last change has the issue that existing Kerberos libraries
will have to be modified to support this behaviour.

(d) Mike is registering the KINK payloads with IANA.


KINK extensibility was discussed. The main questions are: how does a
KINK implementation handle a new payload that it does not recognize?
Should payloads be treated as critical or optional? Charlie Kaufman
indicated that a son of ike entity would reject a message with an
unrecognized major version, but would continue processing a message with
an unrecognized minor version. Radia Perlman suggested that KINK might
benefit from a mechanism that allows a peer to know that the other side
supports a higher protocol version. Most, but not all, of the KINK
protocol error messages will be authenticated, however.  In the most
common SA creation scenario, (AP_REQ, AP_REP exchange) any error
messages would be authenticated.

In addition, Mike indicated that it would be good if KINK is useful for
keying IPsec remote access VPN's.

Implementation Status and Future Plans

Derek asked who is planning on implementing KINK. In addition to Mike
Thomas, four other people indicated they were planning on implementing
the KINK protocol. The chairs plan to ask for WG last call in January,