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RE: [seamoby] BOF: IP over Bluetooth for 50th Meeting of IETF.
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- Subject: RE: [seamoby] BOF: IP over Bluetooth for 50th Meeting of IETF.
- From: Kulwinder Atwal <kulwinder.atwal@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:24:43 -0500
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Kempf [mailto:kempf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:18 PM
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> Subject: Re: [seamoby] BOF: IP over Bluetooth for 50th
> Meeting of IETF.
> There is an issue here with the closed, proprietary nature of
> the Bluetooth
> SIG. Since information on what the SIG is doing is not available until
> it is complete, there is nothing to prevent the SIG from
> doing something
> that would invalidate the work that IETF puts into desiging a better
> IP over Bluetooth.
> Is there any possibility of gaining assurance from the SIG that they
> won't do something like this?
> >Myself and Ron Akers have requested an IP over Bluetooth BOF
> for the 50th
> >Meeting of the IETF in Minneapolis. The BOF will discuss
> the creation of a
> >IETF Working Group to investigate the most open and
> efficient way to place
> >IP over the Bluetooth Host Controller.
> >Current work in this area within the Bluetooth SIG
> concentrates on defining
> >IP over a set of other lower-layer stacks. Currently there
> are two options
> >defined by the Bluetoth SIG:
> > Option 1: IP/PPP/RFCOM/L2CAP/Host Controller
> > Option 2: IP/PAN Profile/L2CAP/Host Controller
> > (where the PAN Profile is a Bluetooth SIG work in progress)
> >We are proposing that the IETF form a WG to define a more
> efficient way of
> >running IP over Bluetooth. In particular, IP would run
> > over an IETF protocol over the Host Controller without
> L2CAP. This option
> >may be adopted by the Bluetooth SIG at a later date as a
> Profile. Since all
> >Bluetooth SIG Profiles are optional, a customer may choose
> any combination
> >of Profiles in a final product. Further, since Bluetooth
> Working Groups
> >have it in their mandate to adopt protocols from other
> standards making
> >bodies such as the IETF, there exists a clear path for IETF
> work to be
> >adopted by the Bluetooth SIG.
> >Whereas the last BOF was informational only and organized by
> the Bluetooth
> >SIG itself, the objective of this BOF will be to foster
> innovation, and
> >speed progress by placing IP related protocol development
> wihin the IETF and
> >Bluetooth-specific protocol development
> > within the Bluetooth SIG, by developing an IP over
> Bluetooth IETF Working
> >This effort will define its own way of running IP over Bluetooth, by
> >carefully selecting a set of Bluetooth protocols (freely
> available from
> >published specifications at
> n.asp) on which
> >to build IP.
> >Please join myself, Kulwinder Atwal, and Ron Akers on the
> pre-BOF mailing
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